Should a hearing aid produce tinniness?

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I went to a local audiologist and tried a high-end Starkey BICROS hearing aid. The sound was very tinny, with very poor sound quality. The audiologist said that's because I'm now hearing frequencies that I haven't heard for a long time, and it'll sound that way until I've used the hearing aids constantly for about 6 months.

That doesn't make too much sense to me, since without a hearing aid I can hear those frequencies (just not as loudly as I'd like) and what I do hear (without a hearing aid) doesn't sound tinny. I don't see why my brain would have trouble processing increased volume.

Having had an audiogram, I asked if we could then test my hearing while wearing my hearing aids. The audiologist said it doesn't work that way, and cannot be done. I would have liked to have seen the audiogram reflecting my improved hearing, and don't see why there would be a problem with this.

Should hearing aid amplification sound tinny at first, and is the audiologist correct on these points?

I'm considering instead getting an OTC hearing aid from Jabra or Sony.

Thanks for your help.
 
Yes, the explanation from the audiologist is correct. You are starting to hear sounds that you were not used to before and those may sound unnatural. It's like walking from a dark room to a brightly lit room. It's not like a pair of new glasses.

Some people get used to it in a week, others in a month or longer. It is also possible that the programming needs adjusting. You may ask your Aud to use the transition period feature in the programming software.

Use your trial period (or free return period). If you don't like them at the end of that period, return them and try another model (or get another audiologist).

You may try an OTC if your hearing loss is mild to moderate.
 
Okay, thanks. So apparently that's the way it is, though it doesn't seem to match my experience. My brain is used to hearing those frequencies, though at a diminished volume. When I turn up the volume on my room's amplifier, it sounds great, not tinny. I'm not following why it would be any different when the amplifier is in my ear rather than on my table. I wouldn't have guessed that such a tiny speaker as a hearing aid has could produce good quality sound. I wonder if anyone has ever recorded the audio output of a hearing aid and analyzed it with software.

With some OTC hearing aids, I can adjust the amplification of each frequency myself. I could gradually increase the amplification of my diminished frequencies, without going to my audiologist all the time. Also I could put my mind at rest by amplifying only the frequencies that I already hear well, and hear it sound great, telling me that I just need to get used to the hearing aid. Maybe later I could get a "real" hearing aid.

I would appreciate any perspectives on how to proceed.
 
JSM said:
Okay, thanks. So apparently that's the way it is, though it doesn't seem to match my experience. My brain is used to hearing those frequencies, though at a diminished volume. When I turn up the volume on my room's amplifier, it sounds great, not tinny. I'm not following why it would be any different when the amplifier is in my ear rather than on my table. I wouldn't have guessed that such a tiny speaker as a hearing aid has could produce good quality sound. I wonder if anyone has ever recorded the audio output of a hearing aid and analyzed it with software.

With some OTC hearing aids, I can adjust the amplification of each frequency myself. I could gradually increase the amplification of my diminished frequencies, without going to my audiologist all the time. Also I could put my mind at rest by amplifying only the frequencies that I already hear well, and hear it sound great, telling me that I just need to get used to the hearing aid. Maybe later I could get a "real" hearing aid.

I would appreciate any perspectives on how to proceed.
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1. There may be a malfunction of the receiver. have them check on a loud sound. A rattle.
2. Let them remove the High Frequencies of 1.8-2 kGz by 8-12 db
 
I appreciate the good ideas. Unfortunately my trial period for those hearing aids is long gone.

I learned recently about Real Ear Measurement (REM), and that it increases success rate by 65%. Presumably the REM microphone between my ear drum and the hearing aid would have made any sound quality problems evident.

Now I'm trying to decide between finding an audiologist who uses REM, or getting an OTC hearing aid from Jabra, Sony, or Sennheiser. Maybe get an OTC now and learn what I can, and in a few years try an audiologist using REM.

If you have any suggestions, that would be great, thanks.
 
I just got hearing aids today. When the tech first put them on they sounded tinny. He went through and programmed them and it went away. I have never had them before and I bought these from Costco. I have actually been listening to TV tonight and not having to turn it up and down to hear and understand what they are saying. I think I'm going to be very happy with these. My hearing has been getting progressively worse the last year so I finally got them. I will be 80 this coming month.
 
I'm happy to hear about your positive experience with your hearing aids. It's great that tinniness isn't something that everyone just has to get used to. My own unsuccessful experience might not be typical. I'll just try again. Thanks for letting me know.
 
JSM said:
I appreciate the good ideas. Unfortunately my trial period for those hearing aids is long gone.

I learned recently about Real Ear Measurement (REM), and that it increases success rate by 65%. Presumably the REM microphone between my ear drum and the hearing aid would have made any sound quality problems evident.

Now I'm trying to decide between finding an audiologist who uses REM, or getting an OTC hearing aid from Jabra, Sony, or Sennheiser. Maybe get an OTC now and learn what I can, and in a few years try an audiologist using REM.

If you have any suggestions, that would be great, thanks.
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send your audiogram privately.
 
Did you solve the tinny problem?
I am trying a pair of Jamba hearing aids now and they sound very tinny. Streaming music sounds like I’m listening to an old transistor radio. And the aids seem to greatly amplify high pitch noises—sounds very unnatural. My AirPods sound good when streaming media but they’re aren’t the greatest hearing aids.
I would love to hear from anyone who has hearing aids that good.
 
JSM said:
I went to a local audiologist and tried a high-end Starkey BICROS hearing aid. The sound was very tinny, with very poor sound quality. The audiologist said that's because I'm now hearing frequencies that I haven't heard for a long time, and it'll sound that way until I've used the hearing aids constantly for about 6 months.

Having had an audiogram, I asked if we could then test my hearing while wearing my hearing aids. The audiologist said it doesn't work that way, and cannot be done. I would have liked to have seen the audiogram reflecting my improved hearing, and don't see why there would be a problem with this.

Should hearing aid amplification sound tinny at first, and is the audiologist correct on these points?
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This is my 1st post in HAT. I just registered. I'm an audio field pro.

I know that current Hearing Aid tech can't reproduce the original sound. No microphone can pick up the orig sound. No speaker sounds the original sound. Even $million hi-end audio systems can't sound the original sound. Not even close.

All mics and speakers ($million speakers, car spkr, cellphone spkr, tiny HA spkr) sound Electronic Sound which contains lots of distortion noise. ES doesn't blend with natural sound. Test it. Say "hello" repeat with sound of TV or audio system. And listen your voice and TV sound together. ES sound bright (tinny) and distorted.

"Listening HA's sounds for 6 months to be used" is a trick which HA manufacturers developed to sell HAs. Human ears are designed to hear the natural sound. HA sounds always unnatural to human ears. During 6 months, the HA buyer finds how to deal with ES sound and learn there is no better option. Though newer expensive noise canceling HA might sound slightly better than cheap OTC HA in noisy restaurant.

Noise canceling tech of HA doesn't work well. I read many $2k~10k HA reviews and many users complain their hi-end HAs don't work in noise background.

Your audiogram is meaningless because the hearing test (for audiogram) was done with Electronic (unnatural) sound speakers.

No audiologist can correct tinny sound of HA. Alex/Wavetouch audio
 
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