Shifting to newer Oticons - some issues

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First, some quick questions:

1. The chimes during changing programs in Oticon Opn sound extremely loud, I can't stop myself from shuddering every time. The starting sound is also loud, but not as bad. Why would they be so absurdly loud? Do they want to damage my hearing or is it my loudness perception being wrong due to underamplification? Can they be changed or muted?

2. Another issue - when I hear loud sounds (in headphones only?), new Oticons make a vibrating sound. If I rewind to the exact same moment, the vibrating disappears. What is it? Noise suppression? Poor antifeedback? It NEVER happens in old Oticons.

I have congenital hearing loss and wear hearing aids since childhood. Since over a decade I've been wearing Oticon Sensei Pro BTE (custom molds). I wasn't REM-tested but an aided audiogram was done too. They were really loud compared to the previous ones but I don't recall them sounding weird. A few years later my parents bought another pair of them which was set a little quieter (neither pair had loudness buttons enabled) but the sound didn't noticeably differ otherwise. In the last years I felt my hearing loss has worsened (sibilants fine; stops, nasals and l are easily confused, struggling to differentiate between voiced and voiceless consonants - my language lacks aspiration) but the audiograms didn't show it ( ), so I shifted to the older ones and it was a more comfortable experience. Since so much time has passed since the model (2013 apparently), I assumed a new model (Opn S 2 BTE) might improve my hearing. Not only did they sound weirdly low-pitched, but the phoneme recognition seemed to worsen, the sound seemed lacking. The first time I had them on they were really silent and everything sounded as if I were underwater (the issue still remains for distant voices, Sensei Pro don't have it) and the audiologist said that's how they should be set with my hearing loss. Fulfilling my wish, the audiologist tried to increase high frequencies but even going overboard failed to recreate the previous experience. Shifted to pediatric Oticon Opn Play 2 and the phoneme recognition maybe improved relative to Opn S 2, maybe something was set better. I noticed that the Oticon Genie 2 software lacked 8 kHz for Opn while it didn't for Sensei Pro so another idea was to go for a higher model which had 8 kHz. It didn't help. Maybe still set too quiet? Maybe it's somewhere in lower frequencies? Wish I could just do REM but it's hard to reach audiologists who do it in my country. Or maybe I could DIY settings, although I don't know how I would get the software and whether it would void the warranty.
 
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Your description is somewhat fragmented, maybe too many hearing aid models and not enough description about how each model was programmed.

REM/Real Ear Measurement is a post-fitting adjustment to make sure that your (Rx/Prescription/Amount of gain) to fit your hearing loss is accurately reaching your ear drums.
I assumed a new model (Opn S 2 BTE)

The software doesn't void your warranty. Though, it is possible that it may anger your Audiologist.

Using the software to DIY change your (Rx/Prescription/Amount of gain) to fit your hearing loss as defined by your Audiogram also requires hardware, namely a hearing aid programming device.

Also; the DIY School Hearing Aids (v2.2) access portals are at your finger tips via 24/7 cloud storage access.
  • Start here → DIY School Hearing Aids (v2.2) to find the access portals
  • You can easily find the Access Portals again/anytime, by clicking any PVC Avatar (click twice - counting the 2nd popup Avatar)
  • When logged in, you can find the Access Portals again/anytime, by clicking a Link in my Signature
  • And finally, you can perform a simple Internet search for "DIY School Hearing Aids"
Suggested reading;
  • 01 Free Hearing Aid Fitting Software
  • 02 How to Program your Hearing Aids
  • How Hearing Aid Gain Fits Your Loss
 
Your description is somewhat fragmented, maybe too many hearing aid models and not enough description about how each model was programmed.

REM/Real Ear Measurement is a post-fitting adjustment to make sure that your (Rx/Prescription/Amount of gain) to fit your hearing loss is accurately reaching your ear drums.


The software doesn't void your warranty. Though, it is possible that it may anger your Audiologist.

Using the software to DIY change your (Rx/Prescription/Amount of gain) to fit your hearing loss as defined by your Audiogram also requires hardware, namely a hearing aid programming device.

Also; the DIY School Hearing Aids (v2.2) access portals are at your finger tips via 24/7 cloud storage access.
  • Start here → DIY School Hearing Aids (v2.2) to find the access portals
  • You can easily find the Access Portals again/anytime, by clicking any PVC Avatar (click twice - counting the 2nd popup Avatar)
  • When logged in, you can find the Access Portals again/anytime, by clicking a Link in my Signature
  • And finally, you can perform a simple Internet search for "DIY School Hearing Aids"
Suggested reading;
  • 01 Free Hearing Aid Fitting Software
  • 02 How to Program your Hearing Aids
  • How Hearing Aid Gain Fits Your Loss

You are missing key details, he is mentioning Opn S3 bte, when in fact the only models currently available are Opn S3 bte PP (105) hearing aid.

I think he is upgrading to a model which is to powerful, I would think even with an Jetpx1 Minirite R with an 85 speaker would be a good step up
 
First, some quick questions:

1. The chimes during changing programs in Oticon Opn sound extremely loud, I can't stop myself from shuddering every time. The starting sound is also loud, but not as bad. Why would they be so absurdly loud? Do they want to damage my hearing or is it my loudness perception being wrong due to underamplification? Can they be changed or muted?

2. Another issue - when I hear loud sounds (in headphones only?), new Oticons make a vibrating sound. If I rewind to the exact same moment, the vibrating disappears. What is it? Noise suppression? Poor antifeedback? It NEVER happens in old Oticons.

I have congenital hearing loss and wear hearing aids since childhood. Since over a decade I've been wearing Oticon Sensei Pro BTE (custom molds). I wasn't REM-tested but an aided audiogram was done too. They were really loud compared to the previous ones but I don't recall them sounding weird. A few years later my parents bought another pair of them which was set a little quieter (neither pair had loudness buttons enabled) but the sound didn't noticeably differ otherwise. In the last years I felt my hearing loss has worsened (sibilants fine; stops, nasals and l are easily confused, struggling to differentiate between voiced and voiceless consonants - my language lacks aspiration) but the audiograms didn't show it ( ), so I shifted to the older ones and it was a more comfortable experience. Since so much time has passed since the model (2013 apparently), I assumed a new model (Opn S 2 BTE) might improve my hearing. Not only did they sound weirdly low-pitched, but the phoneme recognition seemed to worsen, the sound seemed lacking. The first time I had them on they were really silent and everything sounded as if I were underwater (the issue still remains for distant voices, Sensei Pro don't have it) and the audiologist said that's how they should be set with my hearing loss. Fulfilling my wish, the audiologist tried to increase high frequencies but even going overboard failed to recreate the previous experience. Shifted to pediatric Oticon Opn Play 2 and the phoneme recognition maybe improved relative to Opn S 2, maybe something was set better. I noticed that the Oticon Genie 2 software lacked 8 kHz for Opn while it didn't for Sensei Pro so another idea was to go for a higher model which had 8 kHz. It didn't help. Maybe still set too quiet? Maybe it's somewhere in lower frequencies? Wish I could just do REM but it's hard to reach audiologists who do it in my country. Or maybe I could DIY settings, although I don't know how I would get the software and whether it would void the warranty.

Back in the Sensei days, the Sensei was an extremely well pack instrument with speech guard and all the bells and whistles.

I was also capable of doing RECD with no equipment just using the supplied tubes, and although by no means is Speech mapping *

or any sort of verification it would take the ear canal characteristics to calculate the gain, No one really use it.

Sensei pro has a bandwidth of 10,000hz which really helps with spacial awareness and has superior sound quality.

The newer version of pediatric instruments DO NOT have 10,000 only on the Play px 1 which should be a premium instrument, be aware

Play is a rite instrument, which in your audiogram given a 85dbhl speaker is sufficient.

Opn S2 has only a bandwidth of 8,000hz. Your best bet, is to get either More 1, Real1 or Intent 1 if price isn't a issue, all of them

rite instruments.
 
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