Programming works well

HansKnowsNuffin :-) said:
Compression I do understand Dr.Ted Venema's video is pretty good! He shows all the channels that can be adjusted with all his fingers wriggling up and down. I am unsure if I should play around with them in the software or that the fitting software calculates that from the audiologist's test.
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The fitting software calculates the amount of gain based on your Audiogram/audiologist's test.
HansKnowsNuffin :-) said:
What I was aiming for is to set the default volume settings in such a way that the difference is already compensated for on boot-up.
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This is (part of) the job of compression, and if it is done right then you don't need to adjust volume. Oh, getting rid of other volume boosting options like "Streamboost" is a good idea.

HansKnowsNuffin :-) said:
If I'm going to address my audiologist and his contribution it is necessary for me to know what I'm talking about.
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Correctamundo! But here's the Rub: I suspect that your severe/profound hearing loss may not have enough remaining (range-of-working-hearing) to accept the resultant compressed/Rx/Prescription. But that is just my guess? I'm not a professional!! This is a question for your professional Audiologist.

Also note that there are various Hearing Aid compression rationales. See this → Compression Handbook PDF File. Good luck with this.
 
I'm booked in for another hearing test tomorrow afternoon. I'll see if I can get a copy of the audiogram :) Kind regards, HansKnowsNuffin'
 
That didn't eventuate as the audiologist didn't turn up!
Got another appointment next week. I seriously considering buying a set of the following and would appreciate your opinion if that would be a good buy.

Rexton Targa HP 5a Hearing Aid 120dB For Severe Deaf 8 Channels​


my audiogram: https://www.hearingaidtalk.com/community/attachments/visser_myself-hank_23-05-2025-pdf.1153/

Looking forward to your reply, Kind regards, Hans
 
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Old/Bulky and a Completely different path than typical professional fitting related to your hearing loss.
Rudimentary setting available via → Fit2Go App.

I don't know what hearing aids to recommend for someone with severe/profound hearing loss??
ETA: Edit To Add; Link to → Old Siemens on EBay

pvc said:
I suspect that your severe/profound hearing loss may not have enough remaining (range-of-working-hearing) to accept the resultant compressed/Rx/Prescription. But that is just my guess? I'm not a professional!! This is a question for your professional Audiologist.
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Suggestion: Free Trials:

Many professionals provide Free Trials for hearing aids. However, you must insure that they are free!!!
  • Get a copy of the contract first before you start a free trial. Then read every detail to make sure it is free.
  • There is usually protection for the seller for lost hearing aids, so make sure you understand what happens if you lose the hearing aids.
  • The hearing aid provider may be more motivated to provide something that works for you knowing the hearing aids might be returned.
 
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It's a quagmire trying to determine what is best. It might be best to wait to see the audiologist next Friday. A new audiogram I'm hoping for and maybe update the current hearing aids for better performance if possible. Kind regards and thanks again for the reply.
 
HansKnowsNuffin :-) said:
A new audiogram I'm hoping for and maybe update the current hearing aids for better performance if possible.
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  • Since hearing loss tends to worsen with age don't expect any good news regarding your hearing loss/Audiogram.
  • Audiologists don't offer free service to re-fit hearing aids that you bought elsewhere. There's no profit in it.
  • Audiologists like to help. But they also like to sell NEW hearing aids in order to support their business. So beware of that.
I thought your (current/primary) goal was to determine if your severe/profound loss can be helped by wearing hearing aids? And without all the annoying artifacts/buzzing that you hate.
 
HansKnowsNuffin :-) said:
Compression I do understand Dr.Ted Venema's video is pretty good! He shows all the channels that can be adjusted with all his fingers wriggling up and down.
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Also understand, there is a fixed upper limit, and the compressed range needs to fit below that fixed upper limit.
  • For ppl with severe/profound loss there is very little room to put the compressed range
 
pvc said:
  • Since hearing loss tends to worsen with age don't expect any good news regarding your hearing loss/Audiogram.
  • Audiologists don't offer free service to re-fit hearing aids that you bought elsewhere. There's no profit in it.
  • Audiologists like to help. But they also like to sell NEW hearing aids in order to support their business. So beware of that.
I thought your (current/primary) goal was to determine if your severe/profound loss can be helped by wearing hearing aids? And without all the annoying artifacts/buzzing that you hate.
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Our government have a subsidized hearing aids program that finance hearing aids for not financially well off, to a limit of course. Every 5 years you are allowed to apply for a new set. My first set I gave to a friend, after receiving a new set She didn't at the time didn't qualify for the subsidy.
The second set, Sonic brand work better than the Benefons and Starkeys that followed. The Starkeys played up something shocking, switching to Streamboost and nearly blowing the right ear off. The difference in volume setting between the left and right were so far apart made me wonder if there is a fault in the HA or a programming problem. With the Sonics I can hear the car's reverse beeper which I can't hear with the Starkeys and Benefons. I know that the left side has deteriorated and as such will apply for the audiogram which falls under the gov. program. The sellers of this equipment I see as opportunists. How can there be such a difference in pricing from $1500 up to $10.000. I come from a electronic/mechanical selling background and fear many are being taken to the cleaners under the banner of helping people. :) Just my thoughts on it. Kind regards and thank you for your replies. HansKnowsNuffin'
 
Oh okay, they are insurance freebee hearing aids, and a new set of hearing aids will be issued even if the new hearing aids are not really great for your hearing loss. Afterwards, all of the transaction participants are happy, except perhaps the hearing aid wearer? :rolleyes:
 
pvc said:
Oh okay, they are insurance freebee hearing aids, and a new set of hearing aids will be issued even if the new hearing aids are not really great for your hearing loss. Afterwards, all of the transaction participants are happy, except perhaps the hearing aid wearer? :rolleyes:
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As the audiologist chose the HA's suitable for my conditions, I trusted his good judgement which is now being questioned is why another audiogram and what I've learned here will determine where we're heading.
 
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I managed to run Fit2Go on my phone with a wired headphone setup. The result is not much different to my original audiogram. The coming Friday will be an eyeopener when I'm with the audiologist for an audiogram in a professional envoirnment. Thanks again for being there, kind regards HansKnowsNuffin'
 
HansKnowsNuffin :-) said:
As the audiologist chose the HA's suitable for my conditions, I trusted his good judgement which is now being questioned is why another audiogram and what I've learned here will determine where we're heading.
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You cannot always rely on the Audiologist choosing the best hearing aid for your hearing loss. Why? Because, sometimes business profit is part of the decision. AND, (if you think about it) since health insurance models are usually limited to one Brand, there is not much a question about what Brand will be recommended.

HansKnowsNuffin :-) said:
The audiogram performed with the audiologist yesterday showed no difference to my original from a few years back .
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Your unchanged severe/profound hearing loss is noteworthy. But it doesn't change your current dilemma. Which is, given your severe/profound hearing loss, what can you expect from hearing aids? What did your Audiologist say was best for fitting your severe/profound hearing loss?
 
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pvc said:
You cannot always rely on the Audiologist choosing the best hearing aid for your hearing loss. Why? Because, sometimes business profit is part of the decision. AND, (if you think about it) since health insurance models are usually limited to one Brand, there is not much a question about what Brand will be recommended.


Your unchanged severe/profound hearing loss is noteworthy. But it doesn't change your current dilemma. Which is, given your severe/profound hearing loss, what can you expect from hearing aids? What did your Audiologist say was best for fitting your severe/profound hearing loss?
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He didn't advise new ones. He does have access to all different brands of hearing aids. I was allowed to try a $10 grand set of Starkeys approximately a year back which didn't really make a huge amount of difference. He replaced the tubes on the Benafons as the old ones were kinked and noticed I could hear the reverse gear beep on the car, so I'm sitting here chewing the fat what's next. Thanks for the reply and kind regards, HansKnowsNuffin' but learning a lot thanks to you :)
 
Time for an update on my experience. The Starkeys RIC were always giving trouble. The streamboost setting automatically kicked in every time a TV was switched on. The volume settings between left and right were so out of sync that the right side nearly explodes in your ear. With nothing left to lose, I changed the settings with the Noahlink Wireless2. Pulled down the right side and boosted the left to a level that seemed better for my situation. Changing the streamboost setting to manual so it doesn't just switch when it wants to and setting the volume to a suitable level things are pretty good now, some fine tuning may still be done as time goes on but am pleased so far where I am .On streamboost frequencies that I normally couldn't hear are compressed to a level that are now audible, like the reverse gear beeper on the car. Thank you all for being there Kind regards, HansKnowsNuffin'
 
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