Adjusting gain levels in Target 10

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I am trying to set levels for individual frequencies on the music program. However, if I select eg 250 Hz and click the up or down arrows, this moves the other frequencies. This may be because I am in standard mode but I can't find any way to switch modes.
 
if I select eg 250 Hz and click the up or down arrows, this moves the other frequencies.
Maybe because sound waves are waves (and therefore related to each other), and not individual steps.
If you only amplify the sound of "Do" when listening to the song → "Do-Re-Mi" then the song will sound different.

Or, maybe another way to look at it (as steps). There are actually 250 steps between 250 Hz and 500 Hz when observing in increments of 1 Hz.

Maybe read a DIY School Hearing Aids (v2.2) PDF File named (How Hearing Aid Gain Fits Your Loss).
 
Clip from DIY School Hearing Aids (v2.2) PDF File (02 How to Program your Hearing Aids);

Programming hearing aids for music:

Some hearing aids have factory “programs” that can be selected when listening to music. If you are interested in learning more about the details of a typical music program, then here’s a link to a PDF file named Starting out with a music program. It recommends changes such as disabling noise management, wind-noise management, and many more changes to prevent your hearing aids from altering the soundscape for the primary purpose of prioritizing speech.
 
Referencing the chart below, What type of hearing loss do you have?
Also, (and further down in my Signature below) you can see my linked Audiogram;
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My hearing loss is similar to yours.
 

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Oh, okay. Since hearing aids use Wide Dynamic Range Compression (WDRC) to compress and move incoming sounds to a higher range, that leaves some people with (with severe/profound hearing losses) not much room left to receive the compressed range. I think your hearing loss has enough room left. Caveat: This is only my non-professional understanding.

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Which brings us to Phonak Autosense. Seems to me, Autosense is the opposite of what you want for a music program.
How to turn it off? I dunno? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Yes, I'm listening to music using Autosense just now. I do have a music program but I'm half way through fine tuning it and it's not serviceable yet.
 
On my music program, the gain for G65 as set up by my audiologist was

FrequencySuggested Gain (dB)Notes
250 Hz+5
500 Hz+20
750 Hz+32
1000 Hz+39
1500 Hz+40
2000 Hz+32
3000 Hz+25
4000 Hz+19
6000 Hz+17
8000 Hz+17

I find this makes vocals overpower the bass, guitars etc on pop / rock and country. The vocals are harsh and somewhat distorted especially when multiple voices are heard. So I asked Chatgpt to suggest how to make music sound more natural and less distorted. It suggested that I changed gain to

FrequencySuggested Gain (dB)Notes
250 Hz+10 to +15Adds warmth & body to music (bass, drums)
500 Hz+15Support vocals & rhythm
750 Hz+20Helps vocal richness
1000 Hz+25Critical for vocal clarity
1500 Hz+28Smooth transition into upper mids
2000 Hz+25Reduce slightly if music sounds sharp
3000 Hz+20Moderate—too much sounds harsh
4000 Hz+15Controls brightness, watch for distortion
6000 Hz+10Keep modest due to your high-frequency loss
8000 Hz+8 (or less)Go easy—avoid harshness or feedback
This was based on my audiogram which I uploaded to Chatgpt. At first, I struggled to enter the values but I now understand how it works. I am going to try these values today as well as look at other suggestions in the document and from Chatgpt. On Tuesday I will discuss all of these changes with my audiologist .
 
I like to stick with Audiology Best Practice which is;
  • using Pure Tone Audiometry (PTA) to measure your hearing loss
  • and REM/Real Ear Measurement to verify that the Calculated/Rx/Prescribed Gain (for that loss) is reaching your eardrums
Or, in cases where professional audiologist support (along with expensive equipment) is not available, then using an inSitu fitting which is listening for (tones played in each hearing aid, and for each frequency) to measure your hearing loss.

Yes, I understand that musicians may wish to strive towards achieving settings which are best for music. Though, I don't understand if, or how the desired results can be achieved. So I tend to bow-out of discussions about music. Sorry.

An Internet search may help find similar discussions.
 
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