Release New Phonak Audeo Sphere Infinio
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Hi, saw Dr. Cliff's review on Phonak's latest Audeo Sphere Infinio, but i was shocked about the size of that device..
As he mentioned this is because of the space the second processor needs and therefore bigger battery but I think I will not try them on..
Also Bluetooth LE is not onboard, the classic version 5.3 is. Ready for auracast but no TeleCoil.
What do you think of it?
As he mentioned this is because of the space the second processor needs and therefore bigger battery but I think I will not try them on..
Also Bluetooth LE is not onboard, the classic version 5.3 is. Ready for auracast but no TeleCoil.
What do you think of it?
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Thanks Guys; You have prompted me to listen to→ Cliff Olson's Review.
Previously I was skeptical about claims of a new chip. Okay, they do have two new/Add-On Chips. By add-on I mean not part of the main CPU. The new (ERA chip for OS-6.0) and another new chip (deep sonic chip) for processing the Deep Neural Network that have a gazillion speech in noise examples.
imo> The Big-5 hearing aid industry seems to be on the hunt for improvements to SIN (speech in noise) and the solution seems to be in the form of AI-trained DNN (Deep Neural Networks) implemented first by Oticon, then Starkey, and now Phonak (according to the review mentioned above). Also motion sensors are detecting (whether you are walking or sitting still) to further enhance the SIN improvements.
Also trending is old-school contact battery chargers to replace inductive chargers. Maybe inductive charging has some inefficiencies??
Is the Phonak Sphere implementation better than Oticon Intent? Well, the video cautions about a Sphere battery life of only 7-hours if you were to listen only using the SIN program (Speech In Noise). And, the video suggests you may want to do exactly that because it sounds so good!
Downsides;
Previously I was skeptical about claims of a new chip. Okay, they do have two new/Add-On Chips. By add-on I mean not part of the main CPU. The new (ERA chip for OS-6.0) and another new chip (deep sonic chip) for processing the Deep Neural Network that have a gazillion speech in noise examples.
imo> The Big-5 hearing aid industry seems to be on the hunt for improvements to SIN (speech in noise) and the solution seems to be in the form of AI-trained DNN (Deep Neural Networks) implemented first by Oticon, then Starkey, and now Phonak (according to the review mentioned above). Also motion sensors are detecting (whether you are walking or sitting still) to further enhance the SIN improvements.
Also trending is old-school contact battery chargers to replace inductive chargers. Maybe inductive charging has some inefficiencies??
Is the Phonak Sphere implementation better than Oticon Intent? Well, the video cautions about a Sphere battery life of only 7-hours if you were to listen only using the SIN program (Speech In Noise). And, the video suggests you may want to do exactly that because it sounds so good!
Downsides;
- battery life doubts
- too big (maybe too many add-on chips?)
- no LE Audio Bluetooth
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I wish we had specifics about Phonak exact battery size (is it size 13?) and also the expected life of the battery for comparison to Oticon. I think the 33% reduction in charging time may be due to "contact charging"?
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Yes, the DNN (Deep Neural Networks) implemented first by Oticon, then Starkey, and now Phonak (according to the review mentioned above) are very helpful with SIN (speech in Noise). It works very well.
However (imo) Phonak seems to be in catchup mode, so if you have a predilection for Phonak hearing aids, then maybe you should wait for a future hardware release that is more efficient than this Big-azz, three chip, battery hog.
Cliff Olsen video clip;
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Hi Emile030, I doubt trying the new Phonak will open new Eras in relation to my Intent's in use momentarely.. the bulkier size and the much higher Price level are dealbreakers right now in chosing to keep the Oticon's intent 1 ( which is their most recent 2024 model) or to test the Phonak's after this 60 day's testperiod. In my country Retail chains are owned by either Demandt or Sonova which has its negativ effect on the Customers best Price.
For sure the copper contacts contribute to a better thermal- and thus battery life management. Inductive charging generates unwanted heat which will effect battery life.I wish we had specifics about Phonak exact battery size (is it size 13?) and also the expected life of the battery for comparison to Oticon. I think the 33% reduction in charging time may be due to "contact charging"?
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Thanks for that @menglxs
I was thinking that a size comparison (Height& width) should be (Phonak Sphere vs Oticon Intent) instead of (Phonak Sphere vs Oticon More). But in reality there is not much physical difference in battery size between Oticon More vs Oticon Intent.
Here's a chart that I made to graphically depict the physical size of the Oticon and Phonak batteries plus the four common Zinc-Air batteries of the past; This does not include battery capacity/mAh. Assumption: Oticon Intent size13 battery is equal to zinc-Air size13 battery.
I was thinking that a size comparison (Height& width) should be (Phonak Sphere vs Oticon Intent) instead of (Phonak Sphere vs Oticon More). But in reality there is not much physical difference in battery size between Oticon More vs Oticon Intent.
Here's a chart that I made to graphically depict the physical size of the Oticon and Phonak batteries plus the four common Zinc-Air batteries of the past; This does not include battery capacity/mAh. Assumption: Oticon Intent size13 battery is equal to zinc-Air size13 battery.
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Okay. Also; The big 675-size Zinc-Air battery of the past is an outlier and distorts the battery size comparison, (though just a little). Here's the battery size comparison chart with the 675 moved over to the right.
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HMm; Something is not correct with our knowledge about mAh/capacity? We know that Oticon More is 20 mAh because the Z22A replacement battery specs say 20 mAh on the package. We/I have not seen specs-mAh for the bigger size 13 battery in Oticon Intent?? But logically, (Oticon Intent's bigger size 13) will be greater than the 20-mAh of (Oticon More Z22A size 312), right?
Therefore, if the specs for Sphere = mAh/capacity of 35.4 and (35.4 mAh is double the capacity of Oticon Intent) then Oticon Intent mAh/capacity would be somewhere around 17.7 mAh. That can't be right. The final result would put the Oticon Intent size 13 battery
mAh/capacity at less than the (Oticon More's) smaller size 312/Z22A battery.
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